i know its abuse but i'm not going overrule the 2 moderators who are currently running the server. its their call hence why i haven't even entered the mod tools on this server. i gave my opinion that this kind of abuse should be deleted crest but as you can see no one else gets it , so i'm not wasting anymore time on this topic.

and it hasn't been 24 hours crest

Aug 30th 2014, 3:44:43

Aug 30th 2014, 13:06:04

9 and a half hours get it right


and hammer please keep your ffa issues out of express, as i have had no dealing with you outside of ffa,

So where is Mr. Potato Head? Since that is who screwed up by putting celphi in DR with an insufficient number of GS, Mr. Potato Head should now step up to the plate and finish the job.

Any suggestions from the Peanut Gallery on how to best cripple Celphi?

No suggestions..

Mr. Potato Head, assuming you care about what you have done leaving Celphi to run amok, uncrippled by your GS attack, here is what you can do:

Convert your buildings to IC's, build thousands of spies, convert to Dictator, and take out Celphi's jets with 30 "blow up airbases". Wait till they return from an attack after the 2 hour mark; if they are out the blow up airbases doesn't work on them.

[quote poster=Getafix; 33035; 598066]No suggestions..

Mr. Potato Head, assuming you care about what you have done leaving Celphi to run amok, uncrippled by your GS attack, here is what you can do:

Convert your buildings to IC's, build thousands of spies, convert to Dictator, and take out Celphi's jets with 30 "blow up airbases". Wait till they return from an attack after the 2 hour mark; if they are out the blow up airbases doesn't work on them. [/quote

I'm spied out. When he did his GS he used demoralize, dissension and stir rebellion.

wtf did i read this ?

...I agree with Warster.

I'm a regular here, warster, and will say what I want. I answered a couple of questions for the guys. You can delete if you don't like since you have the power.

BTW: I have no FFA issues...it is your lack of respect to others that I find unnecessary. If you are not a fan, then please do not read my posts.

maybe DR abuse should have a coordination clause. I see your point warster, everyone else also makes a good point as well though.

it's a fine line between cheating and playing smart.

Think of the flip side of this scenario, go all defense deep in DR, or just not go on the offense, it's basically asking people to cheat in a manner to beat themselves or to just ignore DR even effects their country in the first place lol especially when you count the loss in production that apparently is in place now.

oh and even if celphi left himself open and *hoped* he would get a GS. the odds of it working out that way or pretty slim almost the the point of being resposnible for other peoples actions. because ultimately no matter what he hoped would happen he didn't click the attack button.

I still don't see the abuse- And even now- there's still no clarity if it is or is NOT.

Whenever you double attack any country- a person can hope for the GS, but anything could happen... I sacrifice having to spend turns to recover my production, have to spend $ on tanks (and their upkeep), have to spend $ on troops (and their upkeep), have to spend $ on sdi, have to increase my SPAL higher than normal (since GDI protects you from all this)... all these things I have to pay for because I have no idea which one he may attack me with.

That's why I can see why coordination would be abuse- because a person would not have to invest in all those and not lose their production benefit. (That would be an example of getting it for FREE). My situation and strategy was NOT free. Everyone here has the ability to use the same strategy I did. Basically- you could accuse ANYONE who attacks a country x2 of exploiting DR.


So check this out....

SS Aug 29, 10:28 Seven of Nine (#20) I R WoG SuperFly (#42) 75 A
PS Aug 30, 17:40 I R WoG SuperFly (#42) Seven of Nine (#20) 176 A

SS Aug 29, 02:48 Seven of Nine (#20) Bonnyrigg Gangas (#25) 59 A
PS Aug 30, 23:19 Bonnyrigg Gangas (#25) Seven of Nine (#20) 254 A

SS Aug 28, 21:55 Seven of Nine (#20) Naturally Sourced Fettas Cheese (#14) 146 A
PS Aug 29, 22:22 Naturally Sourced Fettas Cheese (#14) Seven of Nine (#20) 140 A

Notice- the people who I SS for 100-200A in beginning are topfeeding me the next day- and are angry because I'm in DR and can't grab this massive retal. Yeah- and you call me abusing the system. I think it's perfectly OK what they are doing, I don't like it, but it's totally legal; but, don't complain that I'm in DR.

So here's an extreme example of a situation where I LG'd and the retal wasn't that great back:

PS Aug 29, 22:07 Seven of Nine (#20) Optoms are so fappable (#22) 999 A
PS Aug 29, 22:22 Naturally Sourced Fettas Cheese (#14) Seven of Nine (#20) 140 A

But, is that really much different from someone who doesn't have this massive DR like I did?

PS Aug 29, 12:15 Genius Of The Hole (#58) Slow play Aces (#62) 176 A
PS Aug 30, 21:25 Genius Of The Hole (#58) Slow play Aces (#62) 2489 A
vs
PS Aug 30, 02:28 Slow play Aces (#62) Genius Of The Hole (#58) 983 A

I guess if Slow play attacks Genius with GS, we should handicap Genius's ability to attack for next 24hrs.

#REKT

Celphi, if I haven't made it clear, I already agree with you and think warster is a) totally wrong b) being a snot about it and c) need to stop chiming in as a mod if he isn't gonna act as a mod.

couldnt have said it better celphi. the entire game is played trying to use certain aspects of the game to gain leverage over others. It's naive to assume no one is planning around this one factor as OCD as everyone is on here and as big as one as it is. Your just too honest

I have to agree with Celphi here, this isn't DR abuse.